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Our Blood and Soil's avatar

Excellent interview. Keep doing what you're doing!

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Stephen Kokx's avatar

Thank you!

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Sean Johnson's avatar

Mr. Jackson said: “ It breaks my heart to say it, but if LifeSite abandons the role it once played, calling out apostasy no matter the cost, then yes, it will become an appendage of the Deep Church.

Not by selling out entirely, but by softening, deflecting, pivoting to safer moral stories, while avoiding what it once called “the war for the soul of the Church.”

And:

“ If LifeSite wants to survive as a prophetic voice, it must choose clarity over caution. Otherwise, it’ll still be around, but as a ghost of what it once was.”

And finally:

“… Catholicism that tries to bridge Rome and its base by saying just enough to keep both.”

Observation: Could not all of this be said of the post-2007 SSPX (ie., the year it announced its new editorial policy at Tge Angelus, commencing its non-combative branding campaign), and especially since 2012 (when it began actively purging its own ranks of those who would not abide this sellout for the sake of ingratiating itself to modernist Rome)?

Is there any doubt that the SSPX itself is now part of Trad Inc., firmly in the grasp of the Deep Church?

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Chris Jackson's avatar

Yes it can be said of the SSPX.

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James Bond's avatar

This is an excellent discussion! Thank you!

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Patrick O'Brien's avatar

"What’s being called Catholicism today is unrecognizable to every prior age." It's hard to refute sedevacantism with this in mind.

And Leo is worse than Francis.

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Martin Fegan's avatar

I agree that written debates are much better. No one side talking over the other and much more room for proper references and for completing one's point.

There's such a debate from the 1930's that took place between Fr Ronald Knox (probably better known for his English translation of the Bible) himself a convert from church of England and his opponent writer Arnold Lunn, an agnostic and critic of the Catholic Church. Shortly after the debate Lunn was received into the Catholic Church and was more impressed with the charity and humility of Knox than with Knox's superior arguments. The debate was hosted by a certain newspaper if I'm not mistaken and later transcribed into book form. Although now out of print it can be found on ' Internet Archive' below for free reading.

https://archive.org/details/difficultiesbein0000rona/page/n4/mode/1up

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Al's avatar

Chris, the Sedes have been screaming about the explanation and logical reasons for their position. They use defined Catholic doctrine and dogma along with infallible pronouncements from pre-Vatican II popes. Read those- you can find them on the CMRI website. After reading all of their articles, you’ll become a hard and firm Sedevacantist like me and many others. We’re not in schism or heresy!

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Petite Fleur's avatar

Great interview, tells it like it is. You're doing great, Steve! (I love the pic of the reporter in his Fedora hat slugging down coffee while writing on a deadline, by the way.)

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Andrea M's avatar

I've been following Mr. Jackson's Substack for a while. I had no idea he wrote for The Remnant! I've followed them for years!

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Francisca's avatar

In 10 years visiting the Remnant, I have only twice read an article by Chris. Why do I remember? Because they stood out very clearly amongst the rest. Clear, precise and to the point. Extremely well written without any waffle, and to gild the lily, he was talking sense!

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Jeremiah Alphonsus's avatar

It's strange that the WM Review is given such credit here when the superb NovusOrdoWatch has been toiling in this field for much longer and deeper.

At any rate, if Chris Jackson is a genuine lover of truth, he'll become a sedevacantist. We'll see.

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John Hochstedt's avatar

Novus Ordo Watch is more polemical and snarkier. WM Review is more scholarly and concise, though NOW has produced good scholarly material.

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John Paul's avatar

Amen

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Amma Sylvia's avatar

Wonderful interview. I thank you.

As for your reference to Matt Fradd and Trad inc. podcasters that have gone soft, well... let's call it for what it is, shall we? They have been infiltrated. We know who is truly running the Vatican and the world for that matter.

We are not dealing with simple ideologies or mere feelings, we are fighting a war of a darker implication.

The systematic belief of Communism hiding under the umbrella of "Modernism", has long been instituted by the "dark" side and it will lead to the complete destruction of not only our lives, but of the planet.

It is now almost impossible to blindly follow most top influencers without fearing for the damnation of our souls.

Again, I very much appreciated this interview & look forward to more insightful articles.

Bless you both. Sylvia from Twitter

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Ademar Rakowsky's avatar

Glory to Jesus Christ!

Someone really needs to do a deep dive into the Novus Ordo rite of episcopal consecration: the lack of understanding and courage on the part of so many makes me wonder if that rite, if valid, lacks some elements that the old rite had (You get what you pray for.) or, if the new rite is outrightly invalid and we're living in Henrician/Elizabethan England writ large (globally).

At this point, I'm morally certain that the Byzantine and other Eastern (no change in rite) bishops are valid, and those from Abp. Lefebvre's line and of some of the sede lines.

My head's in a whirl with all this stuff, but I must press on to the full Truth no matter the cost!

Our Mother of Perpetual Succour, aid us!

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Jeremiah Alphonsus's avatar

See:

Unholy Orders: 50 Years of Invalid Ordinations in the Novus Ordo Church https://novusordowatch.org/2018/06/unholy-orders-50-years-invalid-ordinations/

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Ademar Rakowsky's avatar

Glory to Jesus Christ, Jeremiah, on this Feast of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel! (I grew up in Philly near the Carmel, and used to go to the Novena there. Sadly the place is destroyed now, soon after they went Traditional.)

THANK YOU! Much to ponder!!

(I'm a Great Flood Geology specialist, so a comprehensive data set and valid paradigm are vital to me for figuring things out.)

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Steven Work's avatar

Review my pro-Life arguments to great success in 2+ key articles, God's Will.

Using Constitutional and Natural Law I argue that The State must make major changes or make illegal Abortions or Loose the monopoly on violence, and father or any adult willing may replace the father and have same legal status of father with moral, legal, natural rights and obligations to protect his child from extrajudicial murder.

AI generated audio overview of article;

https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/05bdb7f7-536c-4e50-90f4-e3dbfa6024b3/audio

"Multiverse Journal - Index Number 2221:, 11th July 2025, Court Motion: State is Obligated to Assist Father/Public Duty to Protect a Child from Abortion."

https://stevenwork.substack.com/p/multiverse-journal-index-number-2221

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This is in the form of a letter to a Bishop but contains two main arguments. 1st extends Saint Thomas Aquinas' damage from sin, 2nd uses modern psychological method to same ends, the Key-Log that is at fault.

Ever wonder Why is this world insane and most women are so Sick?

AI generated audio overview of article;

https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/dcc1110c-6fdc-4966-a0a6-10948155a59c/audio

"Multiverse Journal - Index Number 2220:, 9th July 2025, A Letter to Traditional Catholic Bishops, Calling for Champions."

https://stevenwork.substack.com/p/multiverse-journal-index-number-2220

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These also provide a antiAbortion argument that does not depend on an unborn existing.

God Bless., Steve

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Martin Fegan's avatar

There needs to be proper debate / dialogue between Trad Inc and sedevacantism. I recently posted an article here on the hope of inticing such a debate. See below.

https://open.substack.com/pub/martinfegan/p/questioning-the-recognise-and-resist?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=3822lj

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Chris Jackson is a false prophet doing things that are offensive to GOD and lead people to hell. He is not honest. He is a deep hell operator controlled false opposition plant of the devil. His main diabolical work is the evil schismatic false religion of sedevecantism. He runs away from the serious questions. About the evil plant of the devil Lefebvre to deceive via a controlled false opposition operation for the 1960-1970 major attack. The evil Popes before P. John the XIII. The false apparations of fatima & La salette. The fraud of sedevecantism. And the other realities. All which are VITAL & OF SERIOUS MAGNITUDE and need to be KNOWN for the greater glory of GOD & salvation of souls. No "discussions" or "dialogue". Only the truth of GOD. GOD will destroy all those who are working to try to tear His indestructible only Church the Catholic Church.

The Catholic Church is perpetually indefectible in her essential form. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL STAY IN HER ESSENTIAL FORM UNTILL THE END OF TIME, NO MATTER WHAT. Catholic = According to the whole (not parts) - Catholic Doctrine given by JESUS, Catholic Worship | Holy Mass; Sacraments instituted by JESUS and Catholic Hierarchy established by JESUS. And they were persevering in the doctrine of the apostles and in the communication of the breaking of bread and in prayers. (Acts of the Apostles 2:42).

Mr. Kokx please tell Mr. Jackson to set up a huge fire at his end & I will set up one at my end. Le him walk in that and I will walk in the one at my end. And let GOD confirm His truth that He is a false prophet leading souls to hell. If he does not then he himself has said what is true that he is a fraud.

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Jeremiah Alphonsus's avatar

He's not a sedevacantist, though he will become one if he's a real lover of truth. As for you, seek help.

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Roman Catechism. Magisterial Teaching. Papal Decree Pope Pius V.

Roman Catechism. PART II : THE SACRAMENTS. The Ministers of the Sacraments. But although God is the author and dispenser of the Sacraments, He nevertheless willed that they should be administered in His Church by men, not by Angels. To constitute a Sacrament, as the unbroken tradition of the Fathers testifies, matter and form are not more necessary than is the ministry of men.

ANGEL CANNOT ADMINISTER HOLY COMMUNION PERIOD. But Pope Pius XII falsely approved it.

Now to prove all the more the hoax from hell of fatima keeping the above truth of GOD aside.

Vatican I - Dogma - So, then, if anyone says that the Roman Pontiff has merely an office of supervision and guidance, and not the full and supreme power of jurisdiction over the whole Church, and this not only in matters of faith and morals, but also in those which concern the discipline and government of the Church dispersed throughout the whole world; or that he has only the principal part, but not the absolute fullness, of this supreme power; or that this power of his is not ordinary and immediate both over all and each of the Churches and over all and each of the pastors and faithful: let him be anathema.

The devil in the form of an angel at fatima did the contrary to this by giving a false holy communion in a way that is contrary to the laws mandated by the Church and Pope Pius XII falsely approved this false apparation

GOD WILL NOT SEND AN ANGEL TO BREAK HIS DIVINE LAW AND THE LAWS OF THE CHURCH.

NO TWISTING AND TURNING SEDEPROTESTANT STYLE.

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No where above has it been said that he is a sedevacantist. One does not necessarily need to be a sedevacantist to push sedevacantism.

Truth? Sedevacantism is a lie from hell. The fatima apparations falsely approved by Pope Pius XII were of the devil. P. Pius XII the modernist liberal evolutionist grandson of Rothschild Banker Marcantonio Pacelli groomed by the satanic freemason Cardinal Mariano Rampolla. And Pope Pius X made Rampolla Secretary of the Holy Office (now dicastery of the doctrine of faith). It is hypocrisy to point fingers at P. Francis & P. Leo XIV for having the wicked Cardinal Fernandez as head of the dicastry of the doctrine of faith once one knows that P. Pius X had a demonic man Rampolla put as head of that same office during his pontificate. The same Pius X had wicked evil men in his Curia. Pius XII did what Pope John Paul II did with the false divine mercy. Pope Pius XII was the father & foundation setter of the evils via the Second Vatican Council (yes GOD can permit a bad Council) in which he is the most named Pope. Pope John Paul II took the apsotasy to another level. For the mystery of iniquity already worketh (2 Thessalonians 2:7). More on the Popes in the second reply. A true apparation is not a part of Public Revelation (which is closed) & is not necessary for salvation. Apparations do not constitute the essential form of the Catholic Church. Same with the Canonizations. Canonizations are not Apostolic. They are not a part pf Divine Revelation. There has been abuse of Papal authority with these two things for evil motives.

Among other things: 1. An angel cannot give Holy Communion. Roman Catechism - The Ministers of the Sacraments. But although God is the author and dispenser of the Sacraments, He nevertheless willed that they should be administered in His Church by men, not by Angels. To constitute a Sacrament, as the unbroken tradition of the Fathers testifies, matter and form are not more necessary than is the ministry of men. [Sedevacantist cannot say yes to the Magisterial teaching above & yes to fatima that contradicts it at the same time] 2. Keeping the fact that an angel cannot give Holy Communion aside. The devil in the form of an Angel gave the false Holy Communion contrary to Divine Law & the laws of Church. False holy communion given under both species when the law of the Church mandatorily said under the form of bread only. Francisco & Jacinta had not received his first Holy Communion. Francisco never knew what he received when it was mandatory to know who one is receiving while receiving Holy Communion. GOD will not send an Angel to break His Divine Law & His laws set by His Church which are to enforce His Divine Laws. The rite for adminsitering the false Holy Communion was contrary to the Roman Rite in force. [Sedevacantist cannot say no one can change the laws mandated by the Church and say yes to the apparation of [the devil] in the form lf an Angel at fatima that gave false holy communion contrary to the laws of the Church]. 3. It can NEVER be GOD's will to send a stranger to children in a lonely place (who should not have been sent by their parents that way) to give them something to eat. Even pagans following the law of GOD in their heart would never allow a their children to eat from a stranger. 4. Our Lady could not be sad in the here an now as claimed because she has the beatific vision (Apocalypse 21:8). Heresy. 5. Many souls go to hell because there is no one to do prayer & sacrifice for them is heresy, blasphemy & a factual lie. It contradicts the de fide teaching of the Church that GOD gives sufficient grace for everyone to be saved. It is calling GOD cruel. Souls go to hell because in their free will they reject the grace of GOD to live & die in a state of union with Him (sanctifying grace). And "NO ONE" has been doing prayer & sacrifice? The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass a prayer & sacrifice of GOD JESUS CHRIST of infinite value has been going on from the start & will go on till the end. 5. On 13 Sep. 2017 the devil in the form of Our Lady said: "God is pleased with your sacrifices but does not wish that you wear the rope when you go to sleep. Wear it only during the day." It is never the will of GOD for small children to be wearing a rope around their waist during the day to do penance. This is what the devil wants. Talk about child abuse ! 6. The false miracle, a deception lf the devil. Machination. The movement of the sun HAD to be seen in all other places where the sun was visible and that NEVER HAPPENED. Joshua 10:12-14.

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Not only Popes John XIII and onwards but the nefarious slave of satan P. Pius XII & backwards ALSO. Not only Pope John XIII to the current Pope Leo XIV (the end times false prophet). Permitted by GOD Popes can err outside Papal infallibility. Popes from long back have gone against GOD & done the work for the devil to bring in the apostasy of these end times. Pope Pius XII the evolutionist & Popes before including sedavacantist false god Pope Pius X the modernist revolutionist did a lot of work the advent of SIN-ODALITY. The diabolical infiltrated work for the advent of paganised sacrilegeous Masses has been going on from long back. Pius XII and Popes before him including Pius X are accomplice. Pius XII promoted the protestantisation of the Mass. P. Pius X by pushing bad praxis did an attack GOD JESUS in the Most Holy Eucharist as a Sacrifice & a Sacrament. These Popes include those who wrote about modernism & freemasonary but were the biggest promoters of them. Canonizations can NEVER be infallible. They are not a part of Divine Revelation. They are not apostolic. They are not the essential part of the Catholic Church. Among other evil things: P. Pius XI was culapable for the murder of the Cristeros & did evil investment of Church money in contraception (Pius XII also did the same evil investment); P. B XV a pupil of the satanic Cardinal Rampolla pushed freemasonic agendas that were not "gone underground" in the previous hypocritical P. Pius X pontificate but were functioning overground in his corrupt and wicked curia (he allowed the Fernandez's of his time to go on with their wickedness); P. Pius X abolished many Holy Days complaining that ”modern man” needs ”more time to work and plant”. The falsely called "anti-modernist" was for the "modern man" "work" to build the new world dis order for the Antichrist at the cost of reducing the Glory that is given to GOD with Holy Days; P. Leo XIII with his naturalistic, humanistic & 'in the world and of it' concepts like rerum novarum pushed the whole "social justice" poison inside the Church & pushed Catholics to be on board the evil industrial revolution which will culminate with the mark of the Antichrist the high point of the industrial revolutions which P. Leo XIV (who has said he has taken the Papal name from P. Leo XIV mainly because of rerum novarum) will push Catholic & non Catholics to take. He pushed the poisonous naturalistic thomism in the Church.; P. Pius IX pushed a false idea of papal authority & papal idolatry via Vatican I with teachings which are NOT heretical but were inbalanced & not well defined, which the devils at Vatican II took evil advantage to push false teachings in the name of the "impecability" of the Pope; P. Pius IX again undermined the fundemental dogma of no salavtion outside GOD JESUS CHRIST through His Catholic Church; P. Pius VII and Popes after him including P. Pius IX promoted the demonic agenda of 'vaccinations' back then; P. Pius VII 'knighted' the vaccinologist Edward Jenner when he knew he was a freemason. Pius VII was a wolf. He signed a concordat with Napoleon, betraying GOD & the Church to the revolution; The demonic sin of usury has been slowly undermined by Popes over a long course of time. (When the evil usurers are at their high point when the human element of the Church by default is at its low point. One of the reasons why GOD JESUS CHRIST scourged the usurers out. Usury triggers in the other three sins that cry to heaven for vengeance. The economic systems worldwide are usurious. The Church before denied those a burial who died usurers.) Popes, including Pius XII and Popes before him, have promoted freemasonic anti GOD forms of goverments. It is a sin of grave matter for any Catholic to support (includes voting) anti GOD freemasonic forms of government. etc. etc. POPES CAN ERR OUTSITE PAPAL INFALLIBILITY. History has hands down proven this.

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Humble yourself and honestly accept that you need help.

And only GOD can help. And He helps only the humble.

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Jeremiah Alphonsus's avatar

Your verbal vomiting of walls of text is yet more proof that you need help. Spewing text walls is typical of those who need help. Get it. It's time.

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Hahahahahaha !!!! How [IN]convinient !!

$EDEVACATIONISM ON DRUGS ! ALL THE MORE EXPOSED ! Your proud sedevacationist twisted intestines in the brains & crooked arteries of snakes in the heart are walled SWINE ! IDIOT in the first place the very fact that you that you use the term sedevacantist screams at you that it is not Catholic. Hindus (false religion) do not call themsleves hindus and Catholics at the same time. Neither do Lutherans. Deplorable condition of mentally wacked out schizophernics of these end times.

Give not that which is holy to dogs; neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turning upon you, they tear you. (Matthew 7:6)

SEDE-TWISTED CHILD OF THE DEVIL ! Typical Trad[sede]novusordo Pharisee !

The fact that you CANNOT prove that the truth of GOD through His Catholic Church is false but instead swine grunt with verbal vommitting of LIES & CALUMNY to try [the impossible] stupid cover up of you & your stupid sededevacationtism being EXPOSED without showing A PROOF where the above is false [which is impossible] is a fact that you need to humble your luciferian pride, get off your SEDEVACATION repent & turn to GOD through His Catholic Church or else He will destroy you. You will see this. The day when it is all the more in your face that YOU NEEDED TO HUMBLE YOURSELF BEFORE GOD AND RECEIVE HIS MERCIFUL HELP. I hope that day is in this life & I hope on that day you finally get serious with the help you need, humble that luciferian pride & be converted, lest you burn in hell forever with the Frauder Cekada, Archschismatic Lefebvre, Luther, Crammer & Pope's & also workers for the freemasonic agenda for the Antichrist like P. Pius XII & the Popes like him (P. = POPE) & the rest of your brethren in hell. Now you are talking your proud crookedness in the limited time of GOD's unlimited mercy for you. I hope that time does not close on you.

Woe be to the nation that riseth up against my people: for the Lord almighty will take revenge on them, in the day of judgment he will visit them. For he will give fire, and worms into their flesh, that they may burn, and may feel for ever. (Judith 16:20,21).

Use this for help Mr. Alphonsus:

Catholic Questioner to a Small Innocent Catholic Child: Can angels give Holy Communion? Can GOD change the laws of His Church through an Angel bypapssing His Divinely established order which is through the Pope? Can Our Lady ever appear on earth and be sad? Is it correct that at any point in time prayer & sacrifice will not happen in the Church? If the sun is seen moving in one place can it be seen still in another at that same time? Would GOD want children to have ropes tied around them to do penance? Is it correct that a Pope can never err imparting teaching to the Church outside papal infallibility? Are Canonizations a part of Divine Revelation & Apostolic? Does GOD give the Popes after the close of the deposit of faith "New Public Revelations"? Eg. that so & so who had died in the year 367 is in Heaven? Can Popes bind the universal Church to anything outiside Divine Revelation?

Small Innocent Catholic Child: NEVER !

Proud Stupid Sedevacationist adult: Pope (in the mind "saint" [which is actually false god]]) Pius XII !!!!!!!! Pope Papacy !! Pope !! Papacy !! Child you are verbal vommitting walls of text. I am a sedevacationist [IDIOT] you see and I can never be wrong. GOD is wrong but my false god Pope Pius XII could never impart something that is heretical teaching.

Small Innocent Catholic Child: Is this a mentally sick cannibal come out of the forest?

Questioner: Yes and also a proud SWINE who is in need of imminent help.

Small Innocent Catholic Child: I will surely "pray & do sacrifice" because only GOD can help [and not the falsity of "ONLY she can help you" said by devil of the fatima apparation in the form of Our Lady] through His only one visible Catholic Church which is where it always has been though permitted by GOD in a very bad condition in these end times.

Catholic Questioner: GOD be Praised child !

And Jesus, calling unto him a little child, set him in the midst of them. And said: amen I say to you, unless you be converted, and become as little children, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 18:2,3)

Now if you still say "you still need help" you are a rabied SWINE whose condition is getting worse. Your time for an act of simple childlike humility before GOD is crossing. Tick tick, tick tick ....

Note: Everything said above is in Charity. When needed a swine has to be called a swine in charity. GOD for His sake comes first & second comes man For GOD. So it is all about GOD & not men nor swines. No sedevecation-pagan-naturalism. GOD JESUS CHRIST will soon end the ongoing TradNovus-NovusNovus-Ordo SWINE FLU VIRUS for the Antichrist on His not so far from now return !

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Oh, Im sorry, I absolutely should have realized my comment about my post disappearing may have been seen as implying you removed it. My apologies, I did not mean that at all. I was trying to point out a possible glitch just in case.

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