EXCLUSIVE Interview With Archbishop Viganò: Epstein Files & The Talmudic World Order (Part I)
'On one side we have the Christian Europe of sovereign nations, on the other a Europe that is Masonic, Talmudic and synarchic.'
Editor’s note: His Excellency kindly agreed to an email interview with Kokx News earlier this month. Below is the first part of our “conversation,” which covers the recently concluded consistory, geopolitics, and the Epstein Files. The second part - which will be released Tuesday - focuses on synodality, the SSPX, and the future of the Church. Visit the Exsurge Domine USA website here. Follow His Excellency on X/Twitter here.
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Stephen Kokx: Your Excellency, we have read your “hot take” (here) on the results of the extraordinary Consistory, and I believe it can be said that – once again – you have hit the nail on the head: “This Consistory confirms the continuity between Bergoglio and Prevost on all the controversial points of the synodal agenda and on the irrevocability of the Council.” What scenario do you believe awaits us, as Catholics, after Leo’s recent statements on the “dynamic development”of Doctrine and Morality?
Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò: When we hear talk of “dynamic development,” we cannot help but think of the condemnation of the heterodox doctrine of the so-called “evolution of dogma,” according to which the Church supposedly has a better and different understanding of Revelation with the passage of time and thanks to the scientific progress of theological disciplines. This is a true pseudo-scientific fraud, based on evolutionism and philosophical historicism, propagated by modernists since the time of Alfred Loisy, through which they try to make the Christian people believe that their adulterations of Faith and Morality should be considered as just another way of expressing the same concept which for two thousand years the Magisterium supposedly was not previously able to correctly articulate. The Catholic Church would therefore have taught doctrines that over the centuries were passively accepted by a submissive and ignorant people, and which were then set aside only by Vatican II and its liturgical reform. Obviously, the doctrines that the Council obscured or reformulated are those that condemn its own deviations, not the least of which is “synodality.” Modernists consider dogmas as historically contingent expressions of religious experience that evolve and adapt to circumstances. The “situational morality” of Amoris Lætitia and Fiducia Supplicans is a practical application of this heretical evolutionary approach with devastating effects, just as the conciliar liturgy is also constantly evolving. It is evident that all this corresponds to an anthropocentric theological approach and an immanentist philosophy.
The one who presently sits on the Throne of Peter claims that the non-Catholic sects supposedly constitute that phantomatic “church” that Lumen Gentium sees as existing also, but not exclusively, in the Catholic Church, echoing Bergoglio, who declared that all religions are paths to salvation willed by God.
But if all religions are willed by God, if truth is “multifaceted” and expresses itself in different and multiple ways in all Christian denominations and even in pagan religions and idolatrous superstitions, then why – I ask – is the only religion considered unacceptable and reprehensible in this ecumenical and inclusive pantheon the traditional Catholic religion? The answer is simultaneously simple and terrible: because the Catholic Faith is the only true religion, the only religion against which Satan unleashes all the other false religions that he inspires and favors. It is the only religion that Satan fears, because it reveals and combats his infernal machinations. 1 Astiterunt reges terræ, et principes convenerunt in unum, adversus Dominum, et adversus Christum ejus (Ps 2:2). The kings of the earth have risen up, and the princes have gathered together against the Lord and against his Christ. The ecumenical and Masonic unity of Vatican II is founded on this pactum sceleris, this pact of wickedness between false religions, united together against the One True Religion. Reversing the words of Saint Paul, Veritatem facientes in caritate – Doing the truth in charity – (Eph 4:15), in the minds of the proponents of synodality, unity cannot and must not be based on Truth: because it is precisely Truth that makes their false unity impossible, and even more so, Charity towards God and towards one’s neighbor.
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The scenario unfolding – or rather, that is already before our eyes – is deeply disturbing, but from an eschatological perspective it is in accord with the apostasy foretold in Sacred Scripture by the Prophet Daniel and the Book of Revelation, and presumably reiterated in the third part of the message of the Virgin Mary at Fatima and in Her words at La Salette: “Rome will lose the Faith and become the seat of the Antichrist.” The apostasy of the Hierarchy of the Catholic Church is part of that crisis of earthly authority that comes about as a necessary consequence of the rejection of the Kingship of Our Lord Jesus Christ. This authority demands obedience in the name of the Head of the Mystical Body, while separating itself from Him through heresy and corruption. The Hierarchy will not be able to heal the wound for which it is responsible until it is converted. Until that conversion happens, it can only be a tyrannical and self-referential authority, devoid of any legitimacy, because it exercises its power abusively, for the opposite purpose for which Our Lord instituted it.

Stephen Kokx: In many of your statements since 2020 you have highlighted the parallels between the modus operandi of the “deep church” and that of the “deep state.” The latest revelations regarding the Epstein dossier documents – now declassified and largely made public – show that corruption and blackmail were the main tools used to obtain obedience and cooperation from individuals in top positions within institutions. But what is most shocking is the level of horrors perpetrated against children and innocent victims. What motivates these people?
Archbishop Viganò: We cannot fail to see in the torture of children the same anti-Christian hatred that led to the martyrdom of William of Norwich (1144), Hugh of Lincoln (1255), William of Oberwesel (1287), Rudolph of Bern (1294), Andrew Oxner (1462), Simon of Trent (1475), Sebastian Novello (1480), Lorenzino Sossio (1485), Domenico del Val, and Christopher della Guardia: all Gentile (goyim) children between the ages of 3 and 15 who were tortured and killed by the same Synagogue of Satan that today governs the world.2 All were tortured for the same reason: in order to kill once again, in the flesh of innocent children, the Immaculate Lamb who gave His life for our Redemption. The difference between these ritual murders and those that emerge from the declassified documents is that back then they may have appeared sporadic because they were committed by a small sect rightly marginalized by a fiercely Catholic society; while today - aided by the complicit silence of the mainstream media and the scandalous inertia of the magistrates – they are committed on a vast scale by the same sect that has managed to seize power after de-Christianizing society and establishing the Revolution. A Revolution that the Council has embraced, progressively converting members of the Hierarchy to Masonic principles and often choosing episcopal candidates from among the emissaries of the Lodges.
This is the matrix of the infernal sect that the Epstein documents confirm in their most horrifying details. On the other hand, if the proponents of Vatican II have gone so far as to deny the responsibility of the Jews for the Crucifixion of Our Lord, it is not surprising that they are so zealous in erasing the memory of those holy child martyrs, even questioning the historical reality of their killing during ritual sacrifices.
The post-conciliar Hierarchy has become complicit in a satanic plan, without understanding its terrifying implications. But despite the evidence of this global coup, it continues stubbornly to support and ratify the globalist agenda, the vaccine farce, the “green deal” fraud, the insane gender theory, the LGBTQ+ ideology, and the ethnic replacement of Catholic nations, even though they are all part of the same criminal and subversive project that we now know has been carefully planned and coordinated.
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But in order for this coup to take place, it was necessary to replicate within the ecclesiastical sphere what the “sons” of the families of high-finance usurers have done by infiltrating governments with the Young Global Leaders program of the World Economic Forum, with the documented cooperation of Epstein himself and well-known Ashkenazi “philanthropists.” For this reason, the fifth columns at the top of the conciliar Hierarchy have created a “dynastic line” – so to speak – that ensures a “lineage” and therefore an ideological and organizational continuity within the central and peripheral bodies of the Church. Theodore McCarrick placed his protégés Cupich, Tobin, Gregory, Farrell, McElroy – to name just a few – in top positions in the Episcopal Conferences and the Roman Curia. Today, these individuals act in the same way, placing their own favorites in positions that perpetuate the power of this lobby.
Stephen Kokx: What can we do, as Catholics and as members of our community, to confront this situation of complete reversal of every basic moral and ethical principle?
Archbishop Viganò: Humanly speaking, the conflict that is unfolding appears decidedly unequal. On one side is the pusillus grex, composed of those who uphold Sacred Tradition. This group has been practically left without shepherds, abandoned and ostracized by the mercenaries and false shepherds of the synodal church, and is also disorganized and fragmented. On the other side is the entire world, with its powerful organizational, financial, and institutional resources, of which that “church” that proclaims itself inclusive of everyone except Catholics is a zealous ally. It is a world that is moving towards proscribing Christians from civil society, criminalizing membership in the Catholic Church, and considering traditionalists as non-persons. The contribution of the synodal church to this operation of persecution lies both in its cooperation with the globalist agenda and in the excommunication of those who, like me, have denounced – and continue to denounce – the corruption of the Prelates and those who have given them protection and impunity.
“In order for this coup to take place, it was necessary to replicate within the ecclesiastical sphere what the ‘sons’ of the families of high-finance usurers have done by infiltrating governments with the Young Global Leaders program of the World Economic Forum, with the documented cooperation of Epstein himself and well-known Ashkenazi ‘philanthropists.”
Here I would like to draw attention to a significant element of the mental manipulation process being carried out on the masses. A few days ago, speaking at the annual World Economic Forum meeting in Davos, we heard the President of the Conference of European Rabbis, Pinchas Goldschmidt, refer to the citizens of the nations of our continent as “old Europeans,” defining them as anti-Semitic and Islamophobic simply because they are unwilling to resign themselves to an irreversible ethnic replacement. 3 In doing so, the globalist elite creates the ideological foundations – as already happened during the psychopandemic with the marginalization of “anti-vaxxers” – for delegitimizing any voice that opposes the dictatorship of the prescribed way of thinking. This delegitimization also entails an implicit deprivation of rights, giving the green light to the ostracism, persecution, and criminalization of anyone who dissents. The elite denies citizenship to those who are entitled to it and grants it instead to foreigners, to whom they fraudulently even grant the right to vote. The “old Europeans” belong to “old Europe,” an entity distinct from the “new Europe,” which is inclusive, multicultural, multi-ethnic, multi-religious, and globalist, following the agenda of the New World Order. On one side we have the Christian Europe of sovereign nations, on the other a Europe that is Masonic, Talmudic and synarchic.
Something similar – disturbingly similar – has also happened within the ecclesial body, which is no less infiltrated by fifth columns than the civil sphere. In this case, we do not have “old Europeans” but rather “old Catholics” – that is, those faithful who still stubbornly consider themselves members of the Church of Christ, and who refuse to accept the admission of those who consciously reject Her Faith, Morality, and Liturgy. The obsessive pro-immigration propaganda of Bergoglio and Prevost, Cardinals and Bishops in support of the ethnic replacement being carried out by globalist governments is not limited to the civil sphere: it finds its ecclesial counterpart in ecumenical propaganda. Their “open borders” policy began with Vatican II, which threw open the doors of the Citadel and lowered its drawbridges precisely at the moment when the most violent assault by the enemy was being prepared. The religious replacement being carried out by the conciliar-synodal Hierarchy is no less deliberate than the ethnic one. It manifests itself in the same modus operandi: forcing true Catholics into exile while granting full Church citizenship to heretics and perverts. Those who do not ratify the Novus Ordo – in all its aspects – reveal themselves as “old Catholics” who belong to the “old Church” with its “old Mass,” and in doing so, they exclude themselves, they excommunicate themselves from the “new church.” On one side we have the Catholic Church, on the other the conciliar, synodal, ecumenical “church” that has successfully seized power and has no intention of relinquishing it.
+ Carlo Maria Viganò, Archbishop
Part II will be published in this space at 7am EST on Tuesday, February 10. Read More:
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It is significant that it is precisely the globalists who are the first to be aware of the “threat” posed by the Catholic Church. No less than Jeffrey Epstein himself admitted this. Cf. here.







This is the first time I have read +Vigano directly address Jewish world power. Bravo.
2000 years post-crucifixion, the Epstein files are the logical outcome of that fateful day.
“Give us Barabbas.” (Ruled by thieves and murderers.)
“Crucify him.” (Satanic deicide.)
“His blood be upon us and upon our children.” (A cursed and godless progeny.)
“WE HAVE NO KING BUT CAESAR.” (Worldly power, the smoke of the synagogue of Satan.)
We better bring back the pre-1955 Good Friday prayer for the conversion of the jews.
“Let us pray also for the faithless Jews [perfidis Judaeis]: that Almighty God may remove the veil from their hearts; so that they too may acknowledge Jesus Christ our Lord. [Flectamus genua is here omitted, in abhorrence of the insult offered by the Jews to our Saviour, when they knelt before him in derision, in the hall of Pilate's palace.]
(IOW No instruction to kneel or to rise is given, but immediately is said:)
Almighty and eternal God, who dost not exclude from Thy mercy even Jewish faithlessness [Judaicam perfidiam]: hear our prayers, which we offer for the blindness of that people; that acknowledging the light of thy Truth, which is Christ, they may be delivered from their darkness. Through the same our Lord Jesus Christ, who liveth and reigneth with thee in the unity of the Holy Spirit, God, for ever and ever. Amen.”